Sunday, January 29, 2006

El Salvador: Huge March Buries Revolutionary Handal

in what the BBC says is the largest crowd to assemble in El Salvador in 25 years, at least 100,000 came out to say goodbye to leftist icon Schafik Handal. From the BBC:

Schafik Handal was the main leader of the political party formed by El Salvador's left-wing guerrillas at the end of the civil war in 1992.

During the war he was a top guerrilla top commander, for 12 years defying the largest US-led counter-insurgency effort since Vietnam.

Before that he was a veteran of decades of clandestine struggle against one of Latin America's most brutal military dictatorships, suffering imprisonment and exile.

This, San Salvador's deputy archbishop Monsignor Rosa Chavez told the crowd, was his most important contribution.

He said Mr Handal had himself wanted to be remembered as a fighter for democracy in his country, whose struggle to get the people of El Salvador the right to choose for themselves.


Blogger jsb said...

He was also a kidnapper and murderer.

1:34 PM  
Blogger Ninja Kitty said...

Right, militant guerrillas are known for their desire to let people "choose for themselves". I have noticed that you like the paramilitary types. Why don't you just hang out in surplus stores or join a militia? I guess it is more fun to view such conflicts from afar, blogging away while sipping on Starbuck's. I highly suggest that you do some adventure travel to an oppressed country and ask if they feel that their government liberates them from the imperial clutches of the West. Bring lots of rice and beans and water purification tablets. And malaria pills. Haha....

5:50 PM  
Blogger leftside said...

Anyone who knows anything about El Salvador knows that it was the rightist Military and ARENA who were kidnapping and murdering like there was no tomorrow - with US active support of course.

And Handal WAS fighting for democracy. Don't beleive me - read the history books or the words of the Archbishop again.

I don't know why you think I support "militias" in today's world. There are very few cases where I would support the lifting of arms against tyranny.... maybe in Nepal and Saudi Arabia. You are the one with Ninja in your name, so maybe you ought to look in the mirror.

Which "oppressed" country do you suggest I should visit? In Venezuela, where Chavez has won 8 elections? In Argentina, where Kirchner has 75%....In Bolivia, where Evo has a 74% approval rating? Or Bush's people in Haiti, who have an 8% approval, or Toledo in Peru with a 12% approval??

7:09 PM  
Blogger Ninja Kitty said...

While your evidence that Chavez is beloved in his country is less than compelling (I don't believe the elections were legitimate), I think that you may have a point that Argentinians and Bolivians (God bless the Bolivians, they don't yet know what Evo really is) generally support their leader. Desperation, fear and hunger give rise to revolutionary ideas and leaders. I don't think that these countries, which have relatively unstable governments, are the best example for oppressive regimes because they haven't really had time to develop into a long running, unified effort to communize the country.

North Korea is a much better example of the natural end-state of communism, and I encourage you to go there. It is literally heart breaking to talk to people who have been brutalized by these regimes. Ultimately, capitalism leaves some people behind, in a way that might be defined as cruel--there are legitimate criticisms of why pure capitalism is wrong. But espousing the ideals of revolutionary communists who *would* kill their own to further their causes is no better. I encourage you to look at European standards of government, which are truly socialist and also just, rather going identifying with the fringe whose "red" identity brings nothing but the blood of dissenters.

7:09 PM  
Blogger leftside said...

I am not a supporter of N Korea's model.

What blood of dissenters in Latin America are you talking about? Only right-wing government's have had blood on their hands.

11:44 AM  

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